⁃ I think therefore i exist, therefore i was created or always existed and the creator was created or always existed, therefore an impossibility possible, a miracle, an uncaused cause, God exists. I would like to debate with you the nature of God.
⁃ By mentioning you were either created or always existed you have formulated a false dichotomy. False dichotomies are always fallacious.
⁃ i am, therefore I was created or i was not created, therefore i was created or always existed. Where is the false dichotomy?
⁃ The first clause (either created or not created) is a proper dichotomy. The second clause, however, is a false dichotomy. You can state that either you have or have not always existed. But to state that you were either created or have always existed is a FALSE dichotomy. And false dichotomies are fallacious. Wouldn’t you agree?
⁃ the first clause is like the second clause. If i exist and i wasn’t created then i always existed. How can i exist if i wasn’t created?
⁃ Are you seriously asking that asinine question? The first clause is in proper dichotomous form. “Either A or not A”. The second clause is NOT. Have you ever witnessed any phenomenon (object, event, substance, entity, process, system, or being) to have been created ex-nihilo – that is instantaneously pop into existence by the sole volition of a deity? Yes or not
⁃ you say “you can state that either you have or have not always existed. But to state that you were either created or have always existed is a false dichotomy.” To state that i have or have not always existed is like stating that i have been created or always existed.
⁃ NO, it is not. And why are you avoiding answering my questions?
⁃ we agree to disagree on being my argument a false dichotomy. God is not an entity external to us, the miraculous entity that always existed is life and death, us, the universe, everything and nothing impossibility possible miracle eternal and mortal. God is alive as long as there is life. We are ourselves for eternity til endless death when all life die. God loves when you love and hates when you hate.
⁃ Yes. We disagree. But my statement is true. Your dichotomy is a false one, and therefore fallacious.
⁃ i would like to talk with you about something very important. I have discovered the cure to addiction many years ago and i can prove my claim. I don’t have a voice in any news media in the world. Addiction is the tormented psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt against their parents learning from example becoming victims of themselves so as to conceal the hatred to hurt others. I am a recovering addict and psychologist. Are you interested?
Humanity is difficult and evidence demanding with obvious truths like “I think therefore i exist” or “I was created or always existed” and gullible with absurd lies like addiction is a brain disease. Did you ever ask for evidence about the disease of addiction that was never found?
What is confusing? Quote me what you don’t understand
I think therefore i exist. Where is the assumption? Therefore i was created or always existed. Where is the assumption? And the creator was created or always existed. Where is the assumption? I am not assuming there was a creator. I say that if I exist is because i was created or there was a creator, or i wasn’t created and always existed. I keep being asked which god i am talking about? Is it not clear enough when i say “God is not an entity external to us, the miraculous entity that always existed is life and death, us, the universe, everything and nothing impossibility possible miracle eternal and mortal.” or are you not listening? You are a part of infinite God, is that difficult to understand that God is everything that exists? I am pointing out that you believe whatever is given to you by experts regardless if it makes any sense at all. I have discovered the nature, or cure, to addiction. Addiction is the psychology of a liar and you have been fooled . If my theory on addiction is known and parents to save their children know they have to teach honesty the wars and other lies would end. I don’t have a voice in any news media in the world. Anyway let’s go back to my argument about God. Because everything have to be created from something then the process goes infinitely back in time and there must be a miracle, an uncaused cause, that science can not explain the origin because always existed. It is not fallacious to say that because everything must come from something, must be caused, so on so forth infinitely, there must be an origin that always existed that defies science. How could anyone explain the origin of something that was not originated because always existed? I was created by my parents and i always existed because we are God impossibility possible miracle one and multiple.
A un tonto en el debate ni una enciclopedia explicando “pienso luego existo” le sirve de evidencia. Un tonto da la razón cuando no se tiene y porfía en defensa de la sinrazón. La humanidad es tan difícil, obtusa, falsa que no entiende lo que un niño inocente entiende porque quiere entender porque es listo.
you look like the kind of guy who is not fooled because you scrutinise evidence. Did you thoroughly examine the evidence when you were told addiction is a brain disease or did you gullibly believe anything that experts told you?
“therefore an impossibility possible, a miracle, God exist” is not an assumption. If an entity that existed always didn’t exist the creation could not have been possible. You are created by your parents and your parents by your grandparents and so on so forth infinitely, and at some point there must be an entity that always existed, without origin. I didn’t say that time and existence began from nothing, i said that if time and existence began from nothing that would be a miracle, an impossibility possible, God, because by definition something can not come from nothing . Therefore God is everything and nothing impossibility possible miracle eternal and mortal in infinite and finite time. We are ourselves for eternity til endless death when all life die. To keep God alive life have to create life, have children.
I can prove the existence of God when the first theory on God not based on faith ever written is known dropping mortality rates. What is your excuse now?
Science can not explain the creation of life and death because always existed.
Un niño inocente la primera hipótesis que hubiese explorado sería que todos los adictos mienten porque son mentirosos porque es listo y tiene sentido común, para averiguar si es lo que parece. Un psicólogo me objetó cuando le expliqué que la adicción es la psicología de un mentiroso que correlación no es causalidad, ¿mienten porque son adictos o son adictos porque mienten? meticulosamente explorando todas las posibilidades para acabar creyendo la mentira la adicción es una enfermedad del cerebro.
How is it possible to be so alone in the social media era? I have discovered the cure to addiction and parents of addicts don’t like the truth that save their children’s lives. Addiction runs in families from hate, hurt, lie, trauma. Do you care?